"So Revan trained elite Sith units into assassination squads, whose duty was to go out and capture enemy Jedi. For instance, we can list Yoda and Sidious winning 5/10 each in a sabers round. The Holocron's gatekeeper was a… This I disagree with. A whole school of sith masters and apprentices.They came back 300 years later.Plus he deafeated what i would say is the equal if not better of Anakin of his time bastilla shan. Anakin has less experience than Dooku, Bane has less experience than Kas'im, Luke has less experience than Vader; didn't stop them from beating their respective adversaries. Both of this is wrong. Who was the strongest jedi of her era. Revan- renowned as the Revanchist, honored as the Revan, reviled as Revan the Butcher, dreaded as the Dark Lord of the Sith Darth Revan, and praised as the Prodigal Knight - was a Human male who played pivotal roles as both Jedi and Sith in the Mandalorian Wars and the Jedi Civil War. Revan had plans for all Jedi. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. Still Palpatine in a very one sided matchup. Yoda was by far his closest challenger. Regardless of era, there are only a select few that could even compare to Sidious to be fair. Yeah, they were equals, it was hardly Sidious winning with moderate effort. Plus the man drove the True sith from their home world singlehandley. The only other Sith that can contend with Nihilus are Vitiate and Sidious, as they know Force Hunger too and how to avoid it. Who fought the mandleorians who was conquering world's for 10 years.it's like day and night i don't see Sidous winning in any capacity.he just never been thorough what revan has it just makes him better, Mace is a hard counter for Sidious. Nox, Wrath, THOT or Barsen'Thor) with the aid of Satele Shan and Darth Marr, who are comparable to Savage, and some none-Force users and gave them hell. Omeah. Sean Williams attempted a similar narrative route in The Force Unleashed, albeit in a more restrained and fleeting manner. - Satele Shan Sorry friends, Valkorion is way too powerful for [any] Jedi or Sith to handle alone. I should probably stop talking about Revan until I start playing again. Bias is pretty much irrelevant because no matter how objectively you look at their feats (just search up their respect threads), Sidious' are better. If anything, Mace was at least as much of a challenge for Sidious if not more. If I may, as far as force powers go, Revan is not limited to dark side or light side and therefore cannot be classified as jedi or sith, he walks both paths and was once described as being the heart of the force. The fact he could even contend with jedi jesus is proof hes a step above revan. Vader nor Sidious can do that. Who shall be the victor? Ertwin. Majority of sources suggest that they are just as skilled as one another, and that Palpatine is at least as powerful as Yoda. Just wanted to see where everyone landed. It was a sight to behold to see all of his victims emerge to vanquish him (or his essence) for good. While not as powerful as Sidious, Revan IS in the same league an his skill with a blade is comparable. This is a PURELY COMBATIVE scenario, which of the two uses their combative Force abilities and lightsaber skills better. You do know revan was so strong in the darkside he could tempt you just by being present. Sidious could probably take on Revan and Malak simultaneously and at least stalemate. Bonus) I don't know if there is any sith who would take a majority but i'd say Krayt. The Superhero Database Classification number, or SHDB Class, is a number that represents the overall 'power' of a character. There isn’t a straight line between windu and Revan. Sideous's reliance on purely dark side power holds him back, and he has limited knowledge of even its true potential as much knowledge was lost by that time, Sideous may be able to extend his life through clones of himself, but Revan was able to substain himself on purely force energy for several hundred years, while being drained by vitiate, and without any need for clones. By far. Keep in mind, this is combat only, Force Storms aren't usable in combat, as the power takes far too much attention from combat and requires too much focus on mustering the power necessary to use the ability. 961 posts Member. It's not. The fact that he fought a Maul level duelist(i.e. By far. The statements you're referring to completely disregard non-canon sources and really only take into account the movies. LOL what makes you say Maul and Savage are even in Revans league when it comes to dueling? I’ll Give you a Shout Out!Like and Subscribe for tomorrow’s Video!----------------------------------------------------------------NET ALLIANCE MERCH! Savage isn't even close to being above Revan, and Maul is probably behind as well. To be fair, some sources do seem to suggest Yoda > Sidious slightly in lightsaber combat, alone, but I'd hardly say that's due to experience. Why is this still going on ? While Sidious holds a vaster knowledge, and more finesse. If you want to remove force storms, fine. Etymology. Darth Caedus vs Revan # Revan Jedi Grandmaster Luke Skywalker of the New Jedi Order. The word Sith was first used in the 1974 rough draft of Star Wars with the first published use being the 1976 novelization of Star Wars as a title for the key villain Darth Vader, the "Dark Lord of the Sith".Sith characters had also been portrayed as such in some Star Wars Legends works prior to the release of The Phantom Menace, and in archived footage for the original Star Wars. Revan has better knowledge of a wider variety of forms than Anakin, but Anakin specialises better in duelling, I think. This would be hotly contested, and honestly any answer could be right but it depends on what views we actually have. It should be noted, though, that I agree that Revan is superior to either Maul or Savage over all. Revan holds experience as well as a brilliant strategic mind and his precognition, easily making him Sidious' equal in a combative sense. Essentially revan is going to be lucky if the fight doesn't just go like this. Moderate probably wasn't the right word. Sidious is literally lightyears ahead of Revan in every category. So even if Sideous did win, it would be far from easy. Sidious could probably take on Revan and Malak simultaneously and at least stalemate. Sidious ragdolls Revan and it's not close. III. So darkside energy messed with his connection to the force. Let me know in the comments below! No one from the Old Republic era could defeat Sidious in a one-on-one either in a Force battle or a lightsaber duel... especially not a lightsaber duel. Not necessarily. By the way in force lighting there advantage Sidious at best or equal at worst since he can not use for storm at will and needs an period of concentration and as shown in the comics that offers an opportunity for his vs opponent to act against him. Why isn't this locked. Whats Savages best feat? Frankly, I overstepped my boundaries with Revan. Krayt has the skill and power to at least contend with sidious with a lightsaber and the force. Luke had him stomping, and in the next he was stomped by an amped Luke. I shouldn't have been making arguments against Revan since I'm not caught up with current Revan. So, without further ado we present: Darth Vader vs. Darth Revan. The Holocron resembled the Temple of the Ancients, an ancient Rakatan structure on the planet Rakata Prime. Palpatine stomps. At least by the time of DE, he's substantially better. No outside interference Environment - start 100ft from each other Team Revan vs Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) & Valkorion. Regardless, Maul is not tiers below Dooku, Vader, or Bane so either way, Maul at least would give Revan a run for his money. Revan didn't have to do that to Malak. Because Sidious is just better. It's enough to outclass Revan completely, but he'd have much harder time fighting two Revan teir opponents simultaneously. , who is pretty much the only one in Revan's era who can be reasonably compared to Palpatine as a Force user. And Palpatine is not slightly better than Yoda in terms of Force. It's also obvious that Luke would be superior to Palpatine later on. but they're really not. My post really had very little to do with him at all and more to do with a conceit developed in a number of EU stories. Second off, Maul has plenty of impressive dueling feats. The idea of using both the light and dark side in simultaneity is still stupid. Intelligent, but that won't help much again Sidious and Revan's massive power. Darth Revan vs Jedi Knight Revan. March 21, 2019 12:45AM. Darth Nihilus, he would devour Revan dead in seconds. He couldn't not with those sith he'll die in a flash. @shootingnova: To be fair, some sources do seem to suggest Yoda > Sidious slightly in lightsaber combat, alone, but I'd hardly say that's due to experience. MUCH TIME PASS "Today WE defeated the most evil and destructive being in history." Statements from Lucas and numerous writers place Him, Mace, and sidious as the toptier duelists. This is a tired concept and a pretty obtuse, uninspired, and poorly explained one at that. He simply outclasses Revan in the Force; there's no debate to be had. I mean its kinda easy when your the only sith with some knowledge. What makes you say Revan is a superior swordsman to Savage and especially Maul? You can't just remove force power from combat abilities. Yoda was definitely able to stay toe-to-toe with Sidious for the most part, but his only real "blows" to Palpatine were his surprise Force Push and his tutaminis, and the latter was at his own expense since he was blown off the pod as well. Sidious would stomp both Revan and Malak at once with relative ease with or without Force Storm. He just beat him even when he took the force of 8 jedi and was powered by the starforge.Revan was a jedi again at this time. Now, who wins? I find that hard to believe. What's maul done that's so impressive? - Revan Some of the most memorable dialogues are in this update. Darth nihilus vs Darth revan STAR WARS Discussion. Not necessarily. I never even commented on the outcome. TCW Sidious was able to simultaneously toy with Maul and Savage, both of whom are above Revan in terms of lightsaber combat. Maul and Savage (especially Savage I mean WTF) are tiers below Revan. Darth Revan's Sith Holocron, also known as the Holocron of Darth Revan, was created by Dark Lord of the Sith Revan in the shape of a four-sided pyramid. He also defeated Yoda with only moderate difficulty who is not only far better than Revan with a lightsaber, but also much more talented and experienced with the Force. Personally I think some of you underestimate Revan's abilities in comparison to Sidious' but everybody's a little biased about something or other. Also why does Fallen Bastila and DR have Force Bond, but not Bastila and JKR? © 2021 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. The same goes for experience, a vastly overrated element of fights - how many times have less experienced people beaten more experienced ones by virtue of sheer power? I wouldn't say easily. While their stories are similar, Darth Revan went even further than Vader. Where is @Dccomicsrule2011: with one of his WWE shaking head gifs? Vitiate had the combined force energy of at least one entire planet, and at the time had dominated every person who resisted him mentally, except Revan, and Revan very well could have won his battle with vitiate if not for a Dumb A** Sith acting on the wrong force vision. For example, Dooku and Sidious may be top tier, but Sidious is still a much higher tier than Dooku in terms of everything, really. Sidious wins, easily. And Sidious is certainly more powerful than the novel iteration of Vitiate. What do we know about Darth Vader? He was able to do what Vader did, but even greater. I mean let's see him try to fight real sith with experience in war then jedi that find droids a challengeand the sith he trained.let's see if can do the mastermind thing on the dark council. Sidious has less combat experience than Revan, and Revan is a more dedicated combative Force wielder (often chaining Force abilities into or between his lightsaber strikes). Yoda is obviously far more experienced than Palpatine and draws his saber far more often, but that hardly left him as the advantageous one in combat. Dracula is the only real threat, but if he can feel pain, he'd be pretty vulnerable to Force lightning. Let me be clear, Sidious was more powerful than Revan, he did things Revan could never had done, and he knows more about the Dark Side than Revan. Plus everyone in the new era are watered down versions of the old republic sith and jedi.Sidious is not stonger then most of the old sith he wouldn't beat any of those people. Revan is a Dooku/Vader/Bane level character (in no particular order) and although this thread is ridiculous (comparing Revan to Sideous) your statement just makes a bad thread worse. Concerning force powers, Revan should be at Windu`s level. And TUF is still the only story that did it right and did it creatively; every other writer that's tried to follow TUF's footsteps seems to have misunderstood what TUF actually revealed about the Force and end up butchering the universal concept the book posited. Way to lowball. The assassination attempt on the Sith Emperor was a mission carried out by the Jedi Masters Revan and Meetra Surik, with help from Sith Lord Scourge and droid T3-M4 to eliminate the Sith Emperor, the Dark Lord of the Sith and Emperor of the reconstituted Sith Empire. Revan vs. Windu would be a pretty fair match in my opinion. Sidious has gone head's-up with Yoda and Luke and is the most powerful Sith lord in existence, ever.If you want to remove force storms, fine. Revan <<< vitiate << valkorian < plageuis < sidious. Revan could hold him off for quite a while but would be cautious to go on the offensive against such finesse in Form 5. Tanking excessive lightning? Sidious backhands Revan into becoming non-Force sensitive and then disintegrates him with an eyeflick. EDIT: For the record, this post doesn't amount to an attempt on my part to repudiate Revan's powers for the purpose of this thread. Revan's Force abilities aren't on the level of Vitiate. Darth Sidious has a vision that shows him that Anakin will become greviously injured in a duel with Obi-Wan Kenobi after he falls to the Dark Side. The fight was not the hardest he ever had. Sidious wasn't losing, though. @shootingnova: Don't let Ant hear you, Nova. Personally, as I said before, I think Revan's tactical genius and precognition make up for his somewhat lower skill with a blade (though he is still an absolute master duelist). Revan's strategic ability and precognition doesn't bring anything to the table that compensates for his vast physical and power inferiority, nor does it bring anything that Palpatine can't handle. More powerful, much more skilled, more unpredictable, and more ruthless. But I do agree Sidious beats two Revans at once, just not easily. If Sidious was so powerful why did he have to handicap an already broken man so he won't be contested.if he is all that as you say Vader no matter how powerful wouldn't touch him. Anyone dooku and above could take these two on with medium difficulty and when Mauls out the game it's over. And need i remind you of the time that revan vaporized someone who had trained in and studied the dark side her whole life and was considered the second most powerful sith of the time, straight vaporized her on the spot, with nothing but force energy. Jan 8, 2020 #23 I would give it 6/10 to Anakin. He was doing better than Yoda. In this respect, Revan and Sidious are put on even footing. I can't believe people are seriously entertaining the notion that Revan has even a ghost of a chance of winning a fair fight between him and Palpatine. It was only an edgewise (and mostly off-topic) comment about a subject I rarely have a chance to discuss in the forums. Revan's Force abilities aren't on the level of Vitiate, who is pretty much the only one in Revan's era who can be reasonably compared to Palpatine as a Force user. Granted, they are definitely top tier duelists, but that doesn't mean top tier is one level, if you know what I mean. Once the former Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, Darth Vader allied with the Sith Lord Darth Sidious during the rise of his Empire. Unless you use convoluted scaling chains to wank Revan to absolute Hell and back (the same can be done for ROTS Sidious), there's not much of a reason for me to see Revan putting up much of a fight when I have him substantially below the likes of Outlander and Vaylin. Revan has better feats than matching ROTS Sidious, deflecting a blast from him while distracted, holding off his lightning while tired and disarming him in a duel? As for his Force abilities, Revan is easily on Sidious' level, while not as knowledgeable as Sidious overall, Revan is still incredibly knowledgeable. Bias is pretty much irrelevant because no matter how objectively you look at their feats (just search up their respect threads), Sidious' are better. The Sith Lord's Holocron was slightly larger than a Human's hand and, unlike most Sith holocrons, was adorned with only a few Sith symbols. Well, although that was a hyperbole, I do not think two "Revan-tier" opponents would give Sidious much trouble. In this Star Wars Versus, we are pitting Darth Revan up against Darth Nihilus. Arcann/Malgus/Revan Vader/Maul/Dooku Rules No In fighting Win by death No BFR Standard gear All lore allowed; Everyone is at their prime. Superhero Class. For instance, we can list Yoda and Sidious winning 5/10 each in a sabers round. I know writers think they're being profound when they have a character say things like, "I've grown beyond your layman ways, Jedi; I use both sides of the Force...at once!" Revan vs Darth Vader (Legends) Darth Sidious (Dark Empire) vs Revan. First off, I corrected myself. At the end of the day, Vitiate's schemes were far grander in scale than Palaptine's ever were. TCW Sidious was able to simultaneously toy with Maul and Savage, both of whom are above Revan in terms of lightsaber combat. Oh my... DarthAnt seems to have revived the Old Republic wank. Let me know in the comments below! He beat her 3 times while she was powered by the star forge. The more important battle is this, Starforge vs death star, Sideous's reliance on purely dark side power holds him back. And he never defeated Yoda with moderate difficulty, the fight was the hardest he ever had and the two were almost equals. And he never defeated Yoda with moderate difficulty, the fight was the hardest he ever had and the two were almost equals. Kill a tired qui gon then get cocky over it? And the jedi of your era are way softer then the one's in the old republic. As for Force abilities, Revan is a master combative Force user. @i_like_swords: Is that so? SnowxElf Re: Mace Windu vs SOR Revan I'd say he's comfortably above Revan in all categories save for durability. The Revan wank is disgusting. But I do agree Sidious beats two Revans at once, just not easily. @darthbane77: Still Sidious, and still every time. I was just commenting on the quality of the idea itself, not the reality of it in Revan's story. Let me be clear, Sidious was more powerful than Revan, he did things Revan could never had done, and he knows more about the Dark Side than Revan. He also defeated Yoda with only moderate difficulty. Good arguments, all of you. And he still beat him decisively. LOL @ all these writers in recent years describing a character, to paraphrase, "overcoming restrictions" by "surpassing light and dark." echo....no....just...just no. And need i remind you of the time that revan vaporized someone who had trained in and studied the dark side her whole life and was considered the second most powerful sith of the time, straight vaporized her on the spot, with nothing but force energy. :https://teespring.com/netalliance#pid=2\u0026cid=2122\u0026sid=frontSupport my channel on Patreon:https://www.patreon.com/NetAllianceFollow me on Twitter:@netalliesSnap me on Snapchat:NET_ALLIANCELike my Page of FaceBook:http://www.facebook.com/netallianceonyoutube/ Sidious has absolutely no way of locating it. He’s an abomination that just eats. Who shall be the victor? For hundreds of years, Darth Revan tore through his enemies with ease. You act as though Force Storm is a key component in his arsenal. I wonder what Valkorion has to say about that... That's a tad hyperbolas. At best, I'd say they're even. Perhaps up until that point, but his most difficult fight would be Luke in DE... seeing as he lost... And I'm sure SOME sources say Yoda is superior to Palpatine in lightsaber combat, but he was at best equal to Sidious in Ep. Sidious is a confirmed master of all 7 forms of lightsaber combat {which, including Juyo, requires him to be a "high end" master of at least "multiple" forms} according to The Complete Clone Wars Episode Guide. However, I stand by my statement that Malak is below Maul AND Savage in terms of lightsaber combat. This is not something that originated in TOR; writers have been attempting that since just after the release of The Unifying Force. I consider Revan stronger than rots era fighters because of muur representing a real threat to Palpatine post rots with either a weak ass Vader, Luke, or leia as host to his power by multiple sources. Sidious by the way can actually use an lightsaber quite well Valkorian is not able to do that. Easily doesn't mean effortlessly. Re: Valkorion vs Luke Skywalker and Darth Sidious on December 11th 2020, 2:54 am @SnowxElf wrote: I'm afraid not, you need to read the panels in more detail, Leia was already joined with Luke when Luke was dueling Palpatine. The first fight he had with D.E. Find him in the NJO books, the Fate of the Jedi books, the Legacy of the … The ONLY abilities that matter in combat are combat-centric abilities, Sidious opening wormholes is IRRELEVANT, as it could not be done in combat because it took too much focus. In such an instance, if Yoda won, it would simply be one of those 5 times. Yoda was also depicted as a superior swordsman in some sources. And regardless of whether Luke was amped or not, he defeated him. Revan is probably a bit of a midpoint between Anakin and Obi-Wan. Overpowering ventress with brute strength mostly? Never mind that the only way they ever even found Tenebrae's body was through Revan's Ghost guiding them. The reality is, Revan is a master of all aspects of the Force, whether it be light, dark, or whatever else the TOR staff makes up, and I acknowledge that. Though in terms of raw power and knowledge Sidious trumps Revan. Twilight vampires are fast and strong, but they can't begin to compare to the power of the Sith, or Asajj Ventress's skill. CG could at least make an effort to try to look like they not only care about money I suppose it's debatable, but I do not see how Yoda would have a slight edge over Palpatine in dueling. Darth Sidious Sheev Palpatine: 4.1 K: Darth Vader Anakin Skywalker: 1.3 K: Darth Nihilus Unknown: 733 K: Darth Krayt A’Sharad Hett: 1.6 M: Darth Caedus Jacen Solo: 2.2 M: Darth Revan Revan… Ten time out of ten times, yes, but I don't think he could effortlessly stomp Revan if Valkorian/Vitiate was unable to do so. Revan is so powerful if he has a force vision everyone around him can see it too. echo....no....just...just no. In a straight up fight, who wins? Yoda was also depicted as a superior swordsman in some sources. Revan is a Dooku/Vader/Bane level character (in no particular order) and although this thread is ridiculous (comparing Revan to Sideous) your statement just makes a bad thread worse. During and long after Order 66, Vader fought with Imperial forces to systematically destroy the Jedi Order. Maul and Savage (especially Savage I mean WTF) are tiers below Revan. Sidious couldn't even beat mace let alone the guy that saved the republic twice. III, but Palpatine had much more destructive capacity than Yoda did. In fact, Sidious vs Yoda is a pretty good example of that. So would Luke. In such an instance, if Yoda won, it would simply be one of those 5 times. I was only talking about lightsaber skills. We are using pre KOTOR Darth Revan R1: Darth Revan and Malak vs Darth Treya, Darth Sion, and Darth Nihilus R2: Darth Revan and Darth Malak vs Darth Sion & Darth Nihilus (no Traya) ... but Nihilus isn’t really a Sith at this point. Second sidious by feats is the most powerful sith to ever live he was one with the dark side so much he felt it would swallow him. Personally while I love the Old Republic a lot more this is a matter of power which honestly Palpatine and Vader has in spades. By hardest, I mean closest. All traits of a character are used for calculating the Classification. Perhaps current Revan would give Sidious MILD trouble in a Force fight, but feat-wise, Sidious is just too fast for Revan and would speedblitz him to hell. and can fight a whole field of jedi/soldiers at once due to him sending multiple lightsabers around the battlefield to fight his opponents, meaning he can fight several battles with several skilled and trained people at one time, and win. Please remember to Like, Subscribe and Turn on your Notifications for more Star Wars Videos!Versus Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jr61F5DIlB4\u0026list=PL386bwYsgSwRVL9Zdgw5svVO4BUJTU1oP\u0026index=34\u0026t=1sRemember to Leave a Future Video Suggestion in the Comments Below! Come on, they should beat each other, not Darth Revan kicking JKR's **** 100% of the time. I am not at all caught up on TOR lore. He went toe-to-toe with Yoda, who is arguably the greatest lightsaber duelist in history {Fight Saber} and arguably the greatest master of the Force {Everything You Need To Know About Star Wars}; he humiliated Darth Maul, one of the most highly trained and skilled Sith in history {Star Wars Fact File 01}, and Savage Opress, who could contend with and defeat members of the Jedi Council {who are the "best" fighters of the Order according to The Clone Wars Character Encyclopedia}, at the same time; and he slaughtered three of the Jedi order's "most celebrated swordmasters" {The Revenge of the Sith Visual Dictionary} who were each, in Obi-Wan Kenobi's opinion {and not contradicted by Yoda(! Savage isn't even close to being above Revan, and Maul is probably behind as well. I was in one of the special units trained to do this. Maybe not in lightsaber combat, but his lightning overpowered him on multiple occasions during the fight. My opinion is Revan, he is easily Sidious' equal in saber combat, as Revan had proficient knowledge of all 7 forms, this combined with his battle precognition and brilliant tactical mind give him an edge in my opinion. I'm referring to Valkorion, in the very prime of his powers. Vaapad won`t be as effective as in Windu`s fight against Palpatine because Revan draws on the dark AND the light side of the … He killed Nyriss with her own lightning before she could throw up a barrier, actually. In this Star Wars Versus, we are pitting Darth Revan up against Darth Nihilus. Although Vitiaite may be better than Revan in force abilities, he can't hold back on Revan either. But once again, I'm ignorant on TOR Revan so I have to give you the benefit of the doubt until I start playing again. Yoda has a slight edge in dueling, palp has a slight edge in the force. 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