luke skywalker vs darth maul

Very close, however, Maul is far more experienced at this point and has a broader fighting style. In Shadow Consiparcy, Sidious blitzed Maul and disarmed him as soon as he actually went serious. you can even see Sidous is getting angry. If this were a badass contest though, Maul would win, hands down. He's also noticeably stronger tactically. I don't think Maul would stomp Luke. Sidious was playing with Maul the entire fight. Because we know you hold SWTOR characters inferior to TPM Maul… You can either intelligently answer or not say anything. I gave him an 8 in the force due to his potential, but he hasn't reached it yet. Anakin From Episode 2 VS Darth Maul From Episode 1Both are armed only with their own Lighsabers. I used to think low of Marek, but after some re-reading of his feats in the books, I realized my mistake. Darth Maul was in his prime right before his death in episode 1. In lightsaber combat Vader would lose to ROS Anikan. Maul at full power would be a better fight. Oh right, zero. His power was great, now, greater than it had ever been. Maul has much more experience as a duelist. @noah_ouellette: What movie feats does Luke have? Luke would win. Maul has that physical edge and training that wins him the fight. ..and didn't even put those plans into action, much less come close to succeeding. Darth Maul vs Luke Skywalker Mo_Ali. name a time Maul planned to do that over a long time period. He has no feats above TPM Maul in skill, hence why I said this can go either way in my original post. First he dodged one attack, then another, then Sidious went all out and basically speedblitzed him: Sidious’s sabers were a blur, a whirling cage of deadly plasma. Anyways, it's not speculation. Dooku planned many times before with Asajj Ventress & Savage Opress to overthrow Sidious. Since A New Hope Vader was described as a mere shadow of Anakin Skywalker, and he felt far greater levels of power during Return of the Jedi. Lulz. And a result was a stalemate until Luke jumped Vader and attacked while amped by rage. He felt engorged with this power, it surged like black fire, demon electrons looking for ground...but he would wait. Like I said, it's an even split between these two as far as dueling goes. So that's why I said it can go either way. Vorwort2. 4 months ago. Talzin was the mastermind. Join Yahoo Answers and get 100 points today. 1. So there you have it. After Savage died Maul fought sidous evenly for about 30 seconds and even pushed him back. ? He was a wuss, then. 7/28/2020. In Shadow Conspiracy Maul wasn't dual-wielding and wasn't nearly as rage-enhanced as he was in the episode. @luckystrike:How can you not justify Maul winning? Power, that is Force, is in Luke's corner. He was constantly trying to redeem his father with is words until he pissed Luke off with the comment of her sister. @alextheboss: You're doing God's work, mate. Sidious is now meant to have trained Maul to be a "scheming mastermind" who was going to someday take over for him if need be. I'd argue that's probably Saesee Tiin. Sidious showed no signs of holding back in those last 20 seconds, stop speculating. Sidious was playing with Maul the entire fight. Dooku was more the former. He locked blades with Windu once and kicked Aayla and then fled. If Sidious did go all out, he would pretty much blitz Maul. Wiki Points. @nishi99: Luke hadn't realized his potential by this point, though, but sure it's there and we do see glimpses of it. @wollfmyth209: Ok I agree with basically everything you said. Vader should also be 8. Maul: Maul > Tenebrae? Sidious spanked him, so that example is utter crap. His best TK feat is holding up a AT-ST; Maul was dragging an entire Shuttle while hurried and injured. For it was an honor, and a noble activity, to kneel at his ruler's feet. @nishi99: Well, he already is one as per SW.com. Luke Skywalker (* 19 VSY auf Polis Massa; † 34 NSY auf Ahch-To) war der Sohn von Senatorin Padmé Amidala und Anakin Skywalker. Lord Vader did not mind waiting, though, nor was even aware of it. So that means RoTJ Vader is gonna be at least as good a duelist as Maul. Beide wurden nach der Geburt getrennt aufgezogen, damit ihr Vater, der zu dieser Zeit bereits der dunkle Sith-Lord Darth Vader war, nichts von ihnen erfahren konnte und sie später nicht suchen würde. He had them already pinned against the wall and LET THEM GO FREE. In the end, I'd have to say Skywalker would win. And he stomped Maul. Also based on canon feats Maul has better feats than Vader. So much bad logic going on here I don't know who to call out first. So RoTJ Luke is about his equal in dueling skill. I don't think Maul would stomp Luke. Dave Filoni said that the entire fight Sidious was enjoying himself and playing around. Nah. I said that was my opinion of how I would rank them in terms of skill and power. A circumstantial victory. Any good shoujo/romance manga’s to watch. on December 10th 2020, 5:28 am. Both Vader and Luke were holding back a good degree the entire fight. Vader is obviously stronger in the force, but he has never shown anything on Maul's level. Your argument is that even post-Savage's death, Sidious was playing with Maul. Maul has to be about a 9 in lightsaber combat do to matching sidious for an extended amount of time when sidious could kill masters like kit fisto in seconds. Jinn shouldn't be the 3rd best duelist of the Jedi in TPM. Eh. Also based on canon feats Maul has better feats than Vader. Maul has much more experience as a duelist. Scheming Mastermind is just a statement right now. Maul, at the time of The Phantom Menace, has no Force feats above or on par with Luke's feats of deflecting objects sent at him by Vader in one of their duels, dominating the mind of a Dragon Snake, finding all the bombs and rigged mechanics in Cloud City and utterly destroying them, etc. It shimmered from within, and resonated with the waves of darkness that flowed from the Emperor. Sidious wasn't holding back in terms of lightsaber combat, just the force. If I ever need a good laugh, I'm glad I can always come back to this thread. Finding it difficult to believe Dooku is intended to be the scheming mastermind when Maul is the one who captured the former and delivered him to Mother Talzin on a plate. But it was ultimately Maul's military genius that allowed Talzin's plan to succeed. Standard gear for both and they are in-character. Who are both above Darth Vader (non angry). (those are 2 numbers off of what i said if you don't remember). Even until the last moments, Sidious didn't go fully all out until the end. And then, well you know what happened. Luke, by RotJ, isn't exactly matching TCW Maul in power either. If we took them at their primes, Luke wins 8/10 times, ROTJ vs Rebels Maul wins 6/10, anything before ROTJ Maul wins 10/10 times. The fight looks shorter than it is due to the panels being cut, but Maul and Mace didn't clash blades once in the time it took Aayla to fall to her feet and then stand back up and engage. Maul was out dueling Qui gon and Obi wan at the same time. Re: Valkorion vs Luke Skywalker and Darth Sidious . Luke Skywalker is the main protagonist of the Star Wars original trilogy. I don't see why not. I think it would be like Qui Gon vs Maul. There would be seemingly no reason for Maul to want to hit Anakin, since neither he nor his master, Darth Sidious, knew yet that the child was the Chosen One. If Luke Skywalker met face-to-face with Darth Maul on the battlefront, who would come out on top? He's much more aggressive, and in my opinion he's faster. What was the last good cartoon Cartoon Network made? Sidious also believed vader would surpass him by quite a bit especially since he has a higher mediclorian count. The son of famous Jedi Knight Anakin Skywalker, he was left on Tatooine with his aunt and uncle after the fall of the Jedi Order. Maul was at least a 8 in saber combat. sith orden.png maul.jpg LUKE SKYWALKER GEGEN DARTH MAULTAUSCHEN Inhaltsverzeichnis: 1. Dooku planned many times before with Asajj Ventress & Savage Opress to overthrow Sidious, name a time Maul planned to do that over a long time period . I think Any movie or TV show Maul beats Luke up until ROTJ, where only Rebels and season seven TCW Maul stand a chance. Vader, angry or not, ain't matching Palpatine. @dccomicsrule2011: Actually they do have feats backing them up. He was trying to force Luke to give into his anger, and he knew Luke wasn't a push over. Assuming this is the case when they fight, the initial edge goes to Maul. Luke's Force edge, while by a good degree, will be negligable given his tendencies. The assassin thing used to be the case (albeit a very, very capable assassin at that), but recently SW.com and some creator commentary has overwritten that; Sidious is now meant to have trained Maul to be a "scheming mastermind" who was going to someday take over for him if need be. Maul should be a tier 8 duelist, and a tier 6 or 7 Force user if TPM. Why do you assume I meant Tenebrae? It is ridiculous to say Luke who only had a couple weeks of training could defeat one of the deadliest sith of all times who had over 15 years of intense sith training. Yeah right, I'm pretty sure I'm more qualified to make such claims, than you are, tbh. STAR WARS VERSUS is BACK! Follow 928. Hilarious how you use that example when you just tried to explain to me that the emotional state of the Skywalkers was the focal point for their respective victories. Although Maul is a very skilled lightsaber-wielder and an experienced fighter overall, Luke is a stronger jedi, biologically (since he is the son of Anakin). But Luke was a more-than-proficient Lightsaber duelist, so I would say he could at least fend off the initial attack. Vader could've won if he used the Force in that fight, and Luke could at best stalemate him in a duel. Vader and Luke aren't a 4 or 10 in lightsaber combat. Vader wasn't trying his hardest to kill him. OOC Daten3. I'm not even sure if a rage amped Vader can be in the same tier as Sidious in Force powers. How do you think about the answers? maul isn't a 6 in lightsaber combat. Er war der Zwillingsbruder von Prinzessin Leia Organa . Because when Sidious actually did get serious, he moved so fast Maul saw "countless blades". And yeah, Mace>Maul. 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I definitely could not see Luke defeating Qui Gon Jin and Obi Wan at the same time. Maul and Savage landing hits means nothing since Sidious effortlessly dodged all of their other attacks and wasn't even phased by those attacks. @i_like_swords: Haha alright good point, however it's not like Maul had Chosen One potential or was more then an assassin in Sidious's eyes. Luke. Also in Daurth Maul Son of Dathomir Darth Maul fights Mace Windu and Another Jedi at the same time and was winning. Darth Maul was in his prime right before his death in episode 1. After that, Luke's knowledge in the force grew to such a level where he was probably more powerful than Sidious. Well, you can't take Luke from the movies. Blade locking with Mace a few times and kicking Aayla's impressive. MORALS ON FOR EACH ROUND.ROUND 1ROTJ Luke vs TPM MaulForce, Sabers, All OutROUND 2ROTJ Luke vs SoD MaulForce, Sabers, All OutROUND 3Dark Empire Luke v Not to mention he's casually bested the likes of Celeste Morne, and held an edge over Starkiller from TFU 2, who equals Galen in saber combat and is thus capable of beating Jedi like Kazdan or Kota and holding off Jedi like Shaak Ti. Maul danced away from one blow, then reversed his movement to avoid another, and then there were too many to count, and then there were even more than that. ANAKIN VS DARTH MAUL Star Wars Battlefront 2 DLC Heroes Battle! Vader was having trouble with an old obi wan. Of course vader lost his potential when he was put into the suite, but he should still be able to hold his own if amped. Even Sidous was pushed by Maul. @crushyourenemies: Vader was trying to push Luke. Only at the end of the fight, like the very last second, did Sidious go all out. It's not speculation when multiple sources actually confirm him. @crushyourenemies: If you paid any attention to what I was saying you would know that I already knew sidious started out toying with maul. Still have questions? @i_like_swords: ....uh movie versions? This is Return of the Jedi Luke Skywalker vs The Phantom Menace Darth Maul. Vader isn't on par with sidous with the force, but that is only due to lack of knowledge of the force and his lost potential. Sidious also believed vader would surpass him by quite a bit especially since he has a higher mediclorian count. Schilling wants to be taken off HOF ballot. Maul winning is lolworthy. Level Six. @wollfmyth209: Sidious showed no signs of holding back in those last 20 seconds, stop speculating. If you mean solid as in, clear, then I'd agree, but if you're referring to the degree by which Mace wins I disagree. After converting Anakin to his cause as Darth Vader, the two purged the Jedi into nigh extinction as they ruled the Galaxy from their Empire. He's not several echelons above Maul; that's preposterous. He would've lost quite solidly if he stayed since Mace>Maul. The episode, on the other hand, Maul is evidently fighting harder and angrier than he ever has before, due to the sheer hatred induced by Savage's death and Sidious' declaration that he's been replaced, and in addition Sidious isn't exactly going all out - but what's important is he's putting noticeably more focus and effort into fighting Maul at this point than he was at any point earlier. Forum Posts. 2. like i said i'm no more than 2 points off. Anyways, he beat average Jedi, yes. Please show me Vader doing something in the new canon that puts him above Maul. However, Maul has the solid physical edge and neither use the Force in combat much. @crushyourenemies: Vader was trying to push Luke. Re: Valkorion vs Luke Skywalker and Darth Sidious . But he has stalemated RoTJ Vader. on December 10th 2020, 6:31 am @HellfireUnit wrote:Why do you assume I meant Tenebrae? Nope. Indeed, a factual one from an out-of-universe source. Luke came into his Jedi Prime about 10 years after the movies. This is true for both our reality and the one that exists within the Star Wars universe. Or for another perspective, the time it took for Dooku to dispatch Tiplee. For the rest of the fight, he was just toying. Darth Vader (Anakin Skywalker) was a male human-cyborg Dark Lord of the Sith and the third and final apprentice of Darth Sidious, who first appeared in the Star Wars original trilogy, and later in the prequel trilogy. Not sure if you can justify Sidious quite "playing with" Maul after Savage's death. He kept his eyes inward, seeking reflection in his own bottomless core. RP-Story7. Not to mention in the old EU a clone of Maul almost beat Vader, and he would of died there if he didn't get medical attention. (Star Wars) Why Storm Trooper's equipment sucks? @wollfmyth209: (((LOL. Continue. Fight takes place on First he dodged one attack, then another, then Sidious went all out and basically speedblitzed him:))). @crushyourenemies: You know all of the previous EU has been thrown out. During that time, Sidious would take on two apprentices, Darth Maul and Tyranus, before setting his eyes on young Anakin Skywalker. He was holding back. And I wouldn't say Luke is more skilled either. Maul winning is lolworthy. I definitely could not see Luke defeating Qui Gon Jin and Obi Wan at the same time. What feats does ROJ Luke have that put him above Maul, Maul: Lightsaber: 9 Force: 7 (clone wars) 8. Like I said, the novel represents a fight between them with Maul fighting at regular levels and Sidious going all out, whereas the episode represents what would happen if Maul was fighting at his absolute peak and if Sidious entertained a serious duel with him. But when Sidious did go all out, he formed so many lightsabers that Maul saw them coming from all angles, and then even more. Easily whooped Opress and then made Maul beg like a little b*(*). In lightsaber combat Vader would lose to ROS Anikan. 0. ANH Vader losing to a Maul doppleganger means nothing. only in the last 20 seconds when maul is angry does sidious stop messing around. TFU isn't a part of the new canon if that's what you're basing your opinion on. I'd give a shout to the time he deposed the current Mandalore and simultaneously united the entirety of the criminal underground with enough efficiency to engage in full scale war with the CIS, capture Count Dooku and General Grievous and have them dead to rights, and force Sidious himself to confront Maul and Talzin personally on Dathomir. The kind you can't deny. Der Gewinner ist der die beste Sicht zu Google hat. Maul has that physical edge and training that wins him the fight. Also in Daurth Maul Son of Dathomir Darth Maul fights Mace Windu and Another Jedi at the same time and was winning. So IF he could survive the initial assault, Luke would win. Warum ich Luke abgegebe6. He locked blades with Windu once and kicked Aayla and then fled. The other Jedi was Aayla Secura, and Maul was not winning. 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